Kim Jong Un Psychological Profiler on China & Most DISTURBING Patient

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(***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Dr. Kenneth Dekleva is a former physician-diplomat with the U.S. State Department and a Professor of Psychiatry at UT Southwestern Medical Center. He is also a senior fellow at the George H. W. Bush Foundation for U.S.-China Relations and the author of two novels, The Negotiator’s Cross and The Last Violinist.

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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – Ken’s Past Guests, Starting in Moscow, Truth About US Diplomats
09:23 – Intro to Psychiatry, Jim Grigson, Forensic Evaluation Techniques
20:45 – Ken’s Most Intense Case, Prison Psychiatry Reality, “Nothing Human is Alien”
32:45 – Having Empathy for Monsters, Emotional Toll, Evaluating Inmates
41:24 – Causes of Predatory Urges, Shocking Classmate Reveal, Catholic Scandals
49:33 – POW Camp Stories, Parents Meeting Post-WWII, Love for Language and History
57:35 – Why Psychiatry, Ken’s Biggest Influence, Most Brilliant Interviewer Ever Met
01:07:31 – Trait of Elite Interviewers, Joining State Department
01:15:47 – First Day in Moscow, Love for Russia, Stress of Diplomatic Work
01:26:41 – Why People Distrust Psychiatrists, Balancing Career & Marriage Abroad
01:32:51 – Benefits for Kids Raised Overseas
01:37:06 – Havana Diplomats, Monthly Parties, Falling Into Geopolitics
01:47:49 – Presenting w/ Jerrold Post, Karadžić’s Shift, T4 Program, Why Humans Do Evil
01:59:02 – Studying Putin, Evil in Human Nature, Social Media’s Dark Path
02:03:27 – Challenging Radical Beliefs, Stalin “Revival”, Kim Jong Un
02:18:01 – Profiling Xi Jinping, His Father’s Story, Rumors of Xi’s Fall, China’s AI Race
02:26:25 – Retaining Foreign Talent, New Cold War, Kai-Fu Lee, National Space Heroes
02:35:32 – The Most Evil Mind Ken Studied, Social Media, Mental Health & Pandemic Fallout
02:45:52 – Staying Tied to Government, Working with Cancer Patients, Human Side of Medicine
02:56:38 – Does Ken Fear Death?

OTHER JDP EPISODES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Episode 148 - Shawn Ryan: https://youtu.be/ib4atmvMqlk?si=iw3Rc5MUkBhiUpoe
• Episode 188 - Dale Comstock: https://youtu.be/3turgHTOS-I?si=7TEfGEtUe_8tPwFU
• Episode 189 - Dale Comstock: https://youtu.be/7rerXhVYqNA?si=SSErCojtCIrmbiqO
• Episode 238 - Taylor Cavanaugh: https://youtu.be/6zsj2CHonQk
• Episode 214 - Nick Shirley: https://youtu.be/DyZeoFWz-UA?si=hUIEYcTZPf-VPEbc
• Episode 229 - Jorge Ventura: https://youtu.be/Lut9cR18FAc

CREDITS:

• Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey
• COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ
• In-Studio Producer: Joey Deef - https://www.instagram.com/joeydeef/

Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 321 - Ken Dekleva

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