Anti-Spy Phone CEO on Pegasus, Israel Link Allegations & Erik Prince

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(***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Joe Weil is the CEO of Unplugged, a privacy-first tech company building tools like the UP Phone to give users full control over their digital lives. He previously worked on special projects for Apple Services and now leads Unplugged’s growth and product strategy.

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• UNPLUGGED PHONE: https://unplugged.com/products/up-phone
• IG: https://www.instagram.com/weare_unplugged/

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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
00:54 - Back Door, iPhone Boom, Ad Overload, Apple + Google, Change It
09:54 - Fixing Youth, UpPhone Time Away, Apple Roots, Sobriety, Living Script
30:54 - Miracle, Rehab, Sobriety, Becoming Christian, Saw Jesus
39:54 - Childhood Abuse, God Before Rock Bottom, Idols, Miracle Factory
49:54 - Vulnerability, Recovery, Imposter Syndrome, Losing Father
59:54 - Labels, Day 1 at Apple, Values-Driven, 10 Years at Apple
01:09:54 - Demo Culture, Ideation, COVID Rethink, Politics at Apple
01:18:54 - Censorship, Leaving Republic, Elon & Twitter, Founders Warning
01:27:54 - Privacy, Data Harvesting, 210K Packets, Better Products
01:42:54 - Apple Tracking, Erik Prince, Israel Concerns
01:53:54 - Byron Tau, Israel, Pegasus, Kill Switch, Data Wipe
02:05:54 - Nothing Impenetrable, UpPhone Experience, Open Source, Deindustrialization
02:15:54 - Assembly in America, $100 Loss Worth It
02:23:54 - CCP Scrutiny, Apple in China, Blurred Platforms
02:38:54 - Innovate, Apple Grave Digging, Tim Cook, Ad Cartel
02:49:54 - Be Ready, Unrestricted Warfare, Consumer Decisions, Ad Data Deck
02:59:54 - Tradeoff, AI in Harvesting, Real vs Fake, Research Aid
03:09:54 - AI Relationships, LLM Risks, Catastrophes & Inventions
03:15:04 - Joe’s work

OTHER JDP EPISODES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Episode 148 - Shawn Ryan: https://youtu.be/ib4atmvMqlk?si=iw3Rc5MUkBhiUpoe
• Episode 238 - Taylor Cavanaugh: https://youtu.be/6zsj2CHonQk
• Episode 305 - Erik Prince: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o5tlrYEmpQ

CREDITS:

• Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey
• COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ
• In-Studio Producer: Joey Deef - https://www.instagram.com/joeydeef/

Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 339 - Joe Weil

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